in new york state, instead of henry clay winning the election, who he should have, the election went to james k.polk, who was a slave owner, an expansionist, he annexed texas which became a state in 1845 and in 1846 he initiated the war with mexico, he provoked an incident that started the war with mexico. we defeated mexico and in 1848, we acquired from mexico the northern third of their country, which is currently the states of california, nevada, new mexico, arizona, and parts of wyoming, and colorado. so he had -- so you know, without -- if he hadn't won, if clay had won, i think we would have annexed texas but we may not have had those southwestern states. what polk wanted was the support on the pacific. he also wanted more land for slave owners. so those two parties really changed the outcome to an election in americano zero and american history. host: many people look to 1992, the reform party led -- led by ross perot and i'm going to show a portion of an interview, conducted by richard wolf of usa today, but at the time, many thought this would be the start of a third party,